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Just curious on how to say it, a phonetic guide would be very helpful, perhaps even using English words as examples. Thank you!


If you have time, I would appreciate a phonetic guide of the whole phrase, "ta eph'hemin, ta ouk eph'hemin". Just the extra "ouk". Thanks again!


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"ta eph'hemin, ta ouk eph'hemin"

I think you mean: "τὰ ἐφʹ ἡμῖν, τὰ οὐκ ἐφʹ ἡμῖν".

This is how we pronounce it, normal and slow tempo:


This phrase is characteristic of Stoicism ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism ). 

Epictetus' Eghiridion starts with this phrase:  "Τῶν ὄντων τὰ μέν ἐστιν ἐφʹ ἡμῖν, τὰ δὲ οὐκ ἐφʹ ἡμῖν." 

Eghiridion in ancient and moden Greek: http://kiatipis.org/Books_Hosted_gr/Epiktitos/Eghiridion.pdf

Eghiridion, English translation: http://classics.mit.edu/Epictetus/epicench.html

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vasiliki Baskou, Instructor/Director, https://learn-greek-online.com.

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Ta eph’hemin, ta ouk eph’hemin - What is up to us, what is not up to us.

How do you pronounce the whole saying?
Please write it in Greek.
Could it be that you mean:  
"τὰ ἐφʹ ἡμῖν, τὰ οὐκ ἐφʹ ἡμῖν", from the Stoic philosophers?
Thank you Aristidis.